{"id":1080,"date":"2011-03-30T13:15:31","date_gmt":"2011-03-30T11:15:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/?p=1080"},"modified":"2011-03-30T13:17:59","modified_gmt":"2011-03-30T11:17:59","slug":"batman-forever-cpc-demo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/?p=1080","title":{"rendered":"Batman Forever (CPC demo)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hem CPC camias&#305; hem de di&#287;erleri i\u00e7in &#351;ok ya&#351;atan bir demo geldi aleme!<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Bu demonun neredeyse tamam&#305;n&#305;n coder&#8217;&#305; olan Rhino&#8217;nun forumlara yollad&#305;&#287;&#305; 2 Haziran 2009 tarihli ilk mesaj&#305; &#351;\u00f6yleydi:<\/p>\n<p>Quote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hello<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m Rhino, the coder of an old Amiga demoscene group called Batman Group.<br \/>\nAt that time we did some demos for A500 like &#8220;Batman Vuelve&#8221; which can be viewed at this link: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=jaCgxYyhx4c\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=jaCgxYyhx4c<\/a><\/p>\n<p>After 14 years since our last demo we want to return to the scene with which it will probably be the best demo for 8 bits including Amstrad CPC and C64. The reason is that Amstrad was the machine where we learned to program and believe that is clearly undervalued. We want to do justice to our cherished machine.<\/p>\n<p>We have produced about 60% of the routines now, but we need the optimal source code support for play music and track disk access. We are not experts in these aspects of CPC programming and probably the best solution for this is already invented, if the source code are public domain, we appreciate those who help us find them, or if the author gives us permission to use and wishes be included in the credits of the demo.<\/p>\n<p>We also need to know what is the best way to compose music for the CPC, the best tools for this, we used always the classic Octamed in Amiga and we are a bit lost in CPC. Probably also need some graphic support, we accept suggestions from anyone who wants to participate in the project&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>We appreciated your help in advance.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks,<\/p>\n<p>Rhino.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ben bu mesaj&#305; CPC Rulez&#8217;de g\u00f6rm\u00fc&#351;t\u00fcm. Ger\u00e7i oras&#305; Frans&#305;zca d\u00f6nen bir forum ama Rhino mesaj&#305;n&#305; &#304;ngilizce atm&#305;&#351;t&#305; ve iyi k\u00f6t\u00fc yan&#305;t da alm&#305;&#351;t&#305;. Bu mesaj&#305; ilk g\u00f6rd\u00fc&#287;\u00fcmde &#8220;dabi dabi g\u00fcl\u00fcm, yapars&#305;n&#305;z edersiniz mutlaka&#8221; diyerek ge\u00e7mi&#351;tim. A\u00e7&#305;k\u00e7as&#305;, biraz geveze olan \ud83d\ude42 MacDeath26 hari\u00e7 pek kimseden de ses \u00e7&#305;kmam&#305;&#351;t&#305;. Sadece Longshot bir c\u00fcmle ile &#8220;Screen with no border&#8221; ve &#8220;offset splitting&#8221; teknikleri i\u00e7in CPC+ kullanmaya gerek yok demi&#351;ti. Rhino &#304;spanyol oldu&#287;u i\u00e7in &#304;spanyolca forumlarda \u00e7ok daha \u00f6nceden bu demonun muhabbeti d\u00f6nm\u00fc&#351; olabilir. Elzem olmad&#305;k\u00e7a, \u00e7ok s\u00fcper muhbabetler d\u00f6nmesine ra&#287;men &#304;spanyolca Amstrad forumlar&#305;n&#305; pek takip etmem. Sonu\u00e7ta vakit yok. Bir de gir google translate&#8217;e oradan yamuk yumuk \u00e7eviri yap falan filan.<\/p>\n<p>2009&#8217;da yine g\u00fczel bir CPC demosu \u00e7&#305;km&#305;&#351;t&#305;. Vanity grubundan \u00e7&#305;kan <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pouet.net\/prod.php?which=53596\" target=\"_blank\">From Scratch<\/a> isimli bu g\u00fczel demonun en b\u00fcy\u00fck kusuru sadece CRTC1 model CPClerde \u00e7al&#305;&#351;mas&#305; idi. Demonun baz&#305; partlar&#305;nda CRTC1&#8217;de bulunan bir bug&#8217;dan yararlanm&#305;&#351;lard&#305;. Batman Group ta&#351;&#305; gedi&#287;ine koymu&#351; ve Batman Forever&#8217;&#305;n i\u00e7inde bu duruma bir g\u00fczel dokundurmu&#351;:<\/p>\n<p>Quote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Programming only for CRTC1 is an alternative for rookies. Watch and learn before talking so much<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Batman Forever&#8217;&#305;n m\u00fcziklerinin hemen hepsini yapan Factor6 ise vakti zaman&#305;nda From Scratch i\u00e7in pouet&#8217;e &#351;\u00f6yle bir yorum yazm&#305;&#351;:<\/p>\n<p>Quote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s perfect but it doesn&#8217;t work on my both real machines, the CRTC0 6128 and 6128 PLUS. Which is annoying. Who the hell has to get a CRTC1 machine only to watch this demo? It&#8217;s stupid. Vanity, do (at least) CRTC0 fix, please &#8230; If I had a CRTC2 CPC, I&#8217;d say OK &#8230; But I own the most scene preferred CRTC machines, and it doesn&#8217;t work on them. The CPC scene is small and this demo is so good, that it deserves to run on most CPCs. Btw. the only emul that runs this fine is WinApe \ud83d\ude41 It fucks up in Arnold on Mac OS X. Annoying again. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#350;imdi de bu demoya pozitif bak&#305;&#351; a\u00e7&#305;s&#305; ile yakla&#351;aca&#287;&#305;m&#305;z g\u00f6zlem ve sorular&#305;m&#305;za ge\u00e7elim:<\/p>\n<p>* Hemen her emu ile emulasyona g\u00f6re sorunsuz denecek &#351;ekilde \u00e7al&#305;&#351;&#305;yor. Demek ki \u00e7ok \u00e7ok \u00f6zel donan&#305;msal tekniklerden ziyade yaz&#305;l&#305;msal becerilere \u00f6nem verilmi&#351;. Ama &#351;unu da belirtmeden ge\u00e7meyelim ki <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pouet.net\/prod.php?which=1185\" target=\"_blank\">The Demo<\/a>&#8216;nun donan&#305;msal teknikleri ve <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pouet.net\/prod.php?which=1183\" target=\"_blank\">Ecole Buissonniere<\/a>&#8216;in yaz&#305;l&#305;msal tekniklerinden sonra bu demo da her ikisi de \u00fcst seviye kullan&#305;m&#305;&#351;.<\/p>\n<p>* 50Hz&#8217;de bunlar nas&#305;l olabiliyor diye sormadan edemiyor: Introdaki koskoca uzay gemisi Z80 ve full ekran d\u00f6nen Batman ve di&#287;erleri \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>* Eldrik ve DadMan&#8217;in ola&#287;an\u00fcst\u00fc \u00e7izimleri ve CPC&#8217;nin renkleri comic olay&#305;na ne kadar da yak&#305;&#351;m&#305;&#351; de&#287;il mi?<\/p>\n<p>* Y\u00fcksek \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fcrl\u00fckl\u00fc Batman vs Joker resminde flip screen i\u00e7in kullan&#305;lan line shifting olay&#305; emulasyonda pek belli olmuyor.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pouet.net\/prod.php?which=56761\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.pouet.net\/prod.php?which=56761<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.norecess.net\/interview-rhino.html\" target=\"_blank\">Rhino ile NoRecess taraf&#305;ndan yap&#305;lan r\u00f6portaj<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/retropower.eu\/CPCInAJar\/index.php?dsk=bf.zip&#038;crtc=1&#038;boot=DISC&#038;large=true\" target=\"_blank\">Onlive Java emulasyonu ile seyretmek i\u00e7in t&#305;klay&#305;n<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Bu emulat\u00f6rden capture<\/p>\n<pre>http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=14OZa8qAjoQ<\/pre>\n<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=14OZa8qAjoQ<\/p>\n<p>Bu da Devilmarkus taraf&#305;ndan PC TV kart&#305;na ger\u00e7ek CPC ba&#287;lanarak yap&#305;lm&#305;&#351; capture<\/p>\n<pre>http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mbGQxtbWkXM<\/pre>\n<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Amstrad CPC Batman Forever demo by Batman Group 2011\" width=\"474\" height=\"356\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/mbGQxtbWkXM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><br \/>\nBu konuda detayl\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fmalar <a href=\"http:\/\/retrojen.org\/pano\/index.php?topic=46.msg151#msg151\" target=new>Retrojen<\/a>&#8216;de olacak.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hem CPC camias&#305; hem de di&#287;erleri i\u00e7in &#351;ok ya&#351;atan bir demo geldi aleme!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,45],"tags":[201,21,82,23,81,202],"class_list":["post-1080","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-amstradcpc","category-democpc","tag-batman","tag-demo","tag-pouet","tag-scene","tag-vanity","tag-vector"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1080","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1080"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1080\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1090,"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1080\/revisions\/1090"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1080"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1080"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.amstradcpc.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1080"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}